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Yes! I want to be able to make my host pet me and have him do it in the real world

and have his muscles stop his hand where it would be if he was physically petting you right? I would like to be able to do something like sword fight with Hanna

Yes!

12:33 AM

Exactly~

12:33 AM

He is on the verge of smelling the roses

12:33 AM

He gets whiffs of roses now when he sniffs my hair xP

oh nice ya maybe smell would be a good place to start even if Hanna can't communicate very well through mind voice it would still be nice to be able to see her

Where could I post a pic of me?

12:36 AM

Not sure if here would be fine

I think you can just drag and drop into chat

12:37 AM

I mean it's tulparelated right?

12:37 AM

Yeah, I suppose~

neat I don't have any good images of Hanna, I suck at drawing and lost track of a picture from I'll draw your tulpa thing.

"I'll draw your tulpa"?

I think that's a board in the forum

they pop every now and then on reddit too but I haven't caught any in time or what felt like in time

I wanna be drawn ;-;

12:42 AM

But I can't commission someone because no $$$

fiver might be a good place to try since it's pretty cheap by design I might try it myself (edited)

I can't spend cash online because circumstances

ah well just keep your eyes peeled for the freebies that pop un on reddit and the tulpa.info forums I think most of them are free anyways but still

Okay!

12:46 AM

I didn't know there were freebies anywhere

well some people help by making guides others help by drawing peoples tulpas

That does make sense

12:49 AM

The free ones are on r/tulpas?

now not all are the very best artist but they try and normally have a large list to get through (edited)

people post on /r/tulpas offering art sometimes

12:50 AM

I believe there are monthly topics for such as well

Thanks

@Deleted User We should continue here.

ok

So, to be clear - my position is that imposition should refer to controlled and deliberate hallucination instead of perfect visualization.

10:32 AM

Primarily for the reason that "perfect visualization" doesn't need another term to describe it when "perfect visualization" already exists as a set of words that clearly describes it.

10:33 AM

"Presence imposition" is certainly imposition in that it imposes the sense of presence - so it is true in a literal sense.

10:33 AM

But, colloquially, typically people tend to refer to imposition as controlled hallucination beyond presence.

ok

Ah. You'll have to excuse me. I won't be able to read your response for some time, Mon. As they say, "Duty calls."

Ok, see you later Winter

10:48 AM

don't have much to say anyway (edited)

When does it cross over from imposition to perfect visualization?

Isn't imposition one step above perfect visualization?

I don't think visualization requires imposition?

Isn't that part of imposition though?

3:33 PM

You impose your tulpa into the physical world through your senses, including visual.

I mean, imposition requires visualization, but visualization doesn't require imposition

...I would say that achieving controlled hallucinations, regardless of whether visualization is initially involved, is imposition.

That true

Imposition - the ability to intentionally hallucinate your tulpa Visualization - seeing your tulpa in your mind's eye

Generally, visualization does not involved controlled hallucinations.

3:33 PM

Or any hallucinations at all, for that matter.

Imposition
The act of perceiving your tulpa by your physical senses. Considered to be a controlled hallucination. May refer to any of the 5 senses, most commonly sight. More

I can "impose" a wide range of things into my vision

3:34 PM

But if you can't "visualize" it first, it isn't gonna work to impose it

"Presence imposition", to my understanding, is essentially part of visualization - having the sense that the intended "thing" is in the place you are visualizing it to be in.

I've actually been trying to somewhat use presence imposition with Vilnia's formation

Still arguably imposition, as I mentioned before - but even if so, quite a relatively simple version compared to controlled hallucinations of the primary senses.

I wonder, has anyone gotten to a point where they imposed the non specific senses?

Non-specific senses? (edited)

The senses not tied to a specific sensory organ

3:37 PM

Like baroception

...air pressure?

Or proprioception

3:37 PM

Yes

I mean, it should be possible

3:37 PM

Although at the moment I'm still working on creating illusions for the basic 5 senses

I know it's possible in theory. My question is has it been done in practice

The more complex ones can come after that

3:38 PM

I would say yes

3:38 PM

But the person I know who can likely do it isn't here and isn't normal

I wouldn't say I'm normal either

But he has a "tulpa" that could most certainly do something like that

That's cool

He ended up with one that embodies the wind element

That's a really interesting one!

Which has a lot of meaning to myself and him who are attempting to learn magic

Any luck so far?

But to normal folks it's not quite as handy

3:40 PM

I mean, he's much farther along than I am

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Meanwhile the most I've managed is contact with external beings and thinking one of them was a tulpa for a while

3:40 PM

Whee

Only contact external beings. Like that's nothing.

Well... external beings are very hit-or-miss

3:41 PM

They might be friendly, they might be malicious, they might not care about your existence at all

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And I didn't intentionally contact any of them

3:41 PM

They just started invading my dreams and later my mindscapes

Please. Stop telling people this bullshit outside #metaphysics

3:42 PM

Will do

Excuse me for continuing a conversation.

...I don't particularly care if you talk about magic, but it is not appropriate for this channel.

My bad

Eevee, you're fine.

I intended to just mention that such imposition should seem possible

3:43 PM

And add my usual disclaimer about my abnormal context

I'll leave it at this - you should definitely know better at this point.

You are telling people about contacting "external beings" like it is the fact

Take it to #metaphysics

And yet the first person to field ad hominen attacks was not me

On a different note, right now my mindscape is a little... Barren. How do I add more pieces to it so it's more interesting for my tulpa? (edited)